economy he is $16 trillion. this is about 25% of the economy. we're not making the argument all spend in washington but it's all control coming through washington every year. that's why there is is no incentive to ever cut anything. these guys are the beneficiary of that $4 trillion. >> sean: wait. where is a sense of patriotism, duty, responsibility to future generations? you say there is no incentive. i thought they are supposed to serve the public. and when you have to rob our children of 46 cents of every dollar we are spending now, i would think there has got to be some. >> the way the founders look at washington and the way it used to be a generation ago. people would come to washington and public service walking away from businesses. come for period of time. serve in the executive branch whether they were republicans or democrats. people would come and serve in congress and then go home. today, that's what i'm talking about extraction. when peter and i talk about that not just extracting tax revenues. getting the best and the bright in th